Re: [californiadisasters] Re: Admin Read: Fair Use

Aside from the culture war aspect you mention, the fact that this case was
eleven years ago puts it in the early days of the World Wide Web, a time
when the effect of the Web on such antique art forms as printed newspapers
was a worrisome unknown. One possible reason why there has been so little
legal action since is that it became apparent in the interim that the Web is
no actionable threat, or at least no one place on the Web is an actionable
threat, to print publications. Or maybe it's now evident that the Web is a
juggernaut, and resistance is futile.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@gmail.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Re: Admin Read: Fair Use

Dan,

Yes, the Leftist rag known as the LA Times took on the Right-Wing rag known
as the Free Republic with both rags being for-profit and having large
circulations. In other words, the Culture War was being fought disguised as
a copyright legal brawl. In the end as you point out money didn't even
change hands but it ended up being essentially a "cease & desist" order.
That was 11 years ago and in the meantime Yahoo Groups and many other online
forums and lists have popped up with nary a legal precedent or even legal
problem as it pertains to such repostings.

It couldn't be more clearly stated via their own actions that copyright
holders aren't being kept up sleepless at night thinking about repostings on
Yahoo Groups and other such forums. They go where other people's money is or
where they own money might go and small non-profit discussion forums don't
justify them hiring lawyers for several hundred dollars an hour to chase
after where there is no money and no real threat to their profitably.
Copyright holders intelligently follow the principal of the cost-benefit
ratio.

We are nothing to them. End of story. In any case we are adapting to Steve
Rule just be on the safe side.

Kim Patrick Noyes

In the meantime on this very day and for

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Dan Waterhouse <gydanw@cvip.net> wrote:

>
>
> 
> Speaking of the LA Times, the newspaper did take the on-line Free Republic
> to court several years ago. The Washington Post also did at the same time.
> The case was settled by FR agreeing not to post complete articles on the
> website (the same rule applies to their members). They post links only.
The
> vast majority of the news groups I subscribe to do the same, and do not
> allow members to post complete articles.
>
> --dan
>
>

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