Jones Snap was a Philly based operation and you're right it wasn't popular beyond.
We had dozens of busted males with a snapped spring. Made a fortune in scrap when brass was up. The small pick was standard issue in area departments around Camden, NJ for a long time. I think I still have one.
Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
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On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:01, newnethboy <kef413@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course the threads (especially on the "steamer" connections*) are indeed
> a continuing problem. There's a difference in the basic hydrant
> construction, too (I say for the sake of Californians):
>
> In the colder climates, the hydrants are dry-barrel; the actual valve is at
> least four feet below grade to prevent freezing. (When the hydrant is shut
> down, the remaining water drains into a gravel bed below the frost line, so
> the hydrant remains functional.)
>
> A New York State Fire Instructor told me once that the movie scenes where a
> car hits a hydrant and there's a column of water are bogus. Wrong. Bogus in
> the Rust Belt, but not in the sunnier climates, where the hydrant valves are
> in the hydrant top.
>
> Jones snap apparently was scarcely ever used outside the Philadelphia area,
> still used some places there. Not a bad connector, in terms of easy and
> positive connection, but you need a tool to get it apart (true, sometimes
> you need a tool for threaded couplers, too), and I think firefighters just
> need to twist something (although the Storz [which I spelled wrong earlier]
> and Barcelona have advantage in that they have no moving parts, springs,
> etc.).
>
> --------------
> * The fire service is rife with "traditional" terms; here's another one. The
> "steamer" connection on the hydrant--the big one--is where the steam-powered
> fire engine would connect a suction hose in order to get enough water
> supply. (The prior hand-powered pumpers needed only a 2.5-inch connection,
> because that's all the crew could pump, supplying one 2.5 line with a
> straight-bore nozzle. The steamer was a hugely powerful engine/pumper in
> comparison--but was completely eclipsed by the gasoline-driven pumper, and
> today's engines!--Wow!)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis N. Molino, Sr." <lnmolino@aol.com>
> To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
> "second alarm"
>
>
> Actually I know of one very small town in NJ that has Jones Snap on their
> hydrants. 2 2 1/2" outlets with a threaded Steamer connection. Every one
> around them has Snap thread adapters.
>
> The Steamers are the real issue since everyone seems to have thief own
> thread cuts and no standards.
>
> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
> Please excuse any typos.
> (979) 412-0890 (Cell)
> LNMolino@aol.com
>
>
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