Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County "second alarm"

Different "dialects" are still a problem, though getting better as we seek
further "interoperability". In a recent discussion on another group, the
example was given of how "cover me" has different meanings for local police
and for National Guard. (For those not into this: PD means, "Aim a weapon
and fire if needed," whereas NG means, "Launch a volley of fire/hail of
bullets to keep them pinned down." VERY different indeed!)

But interoperability wasn't even a concept, let alone a goal, for the
longest time. Jargon differences such as "5-11", "All hands", "Signal 30",
are nothing compared to hydrant threads being different sizes and thread
pitches from one jurisdiction to another, and hoses and nozzles having
different thread types. This problem existed at least into the 1980s, if not
still; in my very small department (where we did mutual aid for nearly every
working fire), we needed to carry thread adapters for three or four
different thread types (plus we were the only ones using large-diameter hose
with Storch couplers).

One of the things I REALLY APPRECIATE in SoCal is the cooperation between
agencies/jurisdictions. (They even have the same hydrant threads, usually.)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis N. Molino, Sr." <lnmolino@aol.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
"second alarm"

Yea in ways. The fact is I was hooked by them. Made my first box alarm for a
house fire on 12/26/72. Dried up Christmas tree.

As for your description of "Alarms" very nicely put. I'd add that one of the
problems from the old days was terms were used so loosely. Example Philly
never had a General Alarm. Some Cities in NJ would have the General Alarm
and if more help was needed they would go fir the second and third alarms
from there.

Add to that the street lingo of we had a 3 bagger last night as in 3 rd
alarm or the 5-11 was struck for that job 5th alarm on the 10-11 code for a
fire.

Each are or the US is it's own world with this stuff.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
Please excuse any typos.
(979) 412-0890 (Cell)
LNMolino@aol.com

On Sep 12, 2010, at 22:37, newnethboy <kef413@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Training films".
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lnmolino@aol.com>
> To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
> "second alarm"
>
>
>> Oh and as for emergency yes I know where I was on January 22 1972 at 200
>> eastern time and have seen all 134 episodes ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
>> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
>> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection
> Consultant

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