Re: [californiadisasters] Prepare for Carmageddon With Mobile Disaster Kit

Same principle applies to mutual aid (when properly done): Provide better
service with less resources, so the taxpayers get more for less. How can
that be a problem?!

The "no city loyalty" concept is good. What I've said here before about
this, contrasting the East Coast with CA, goes along these lines. In CA,
even the cities which still have "city loyalty" don't have it as strongly
(or at least in a form so hindering delivery of services) as in the East.
But to have an agency with NO city loyalty would seem to be the ideal.

As you say, though, the politicians and chiefs still have to give up their
turf (or perceived turf) to get there.

I say "perceived turf": At least one city in the Verdugo system gave up some
"turf" in joining the system, but their alternative appeared to be
dissolution of the city FD for contract service from the County. The
leadership wisely chose to give up some turf instead of all the turf.

One thing that astounds me on the "me-first" streets of SoCal is how some
drivers will actually delay themselves to keep from letting another go
first. The same dynamic is in play with the "leaders" who guard their turf
until they lose it all.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Bates" <HappyMoosePhoto@gmail.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [californiadisasters] Prepare for Carmageddon With Mobile
Disaster Kit

> Ok. Inter-department, not inter-discipline structure. Nobody wants to
give
> up their turf, but I suspect you'll see more consolidation. It's better
for
> the public because it consolidates training standards, improves responses
> and it's (gasp) cheaper. Department become more efficient, chances for
> promotion or moving around increase, all good stuff. Best way might be to
> form an agency with NO city loyalty so it can work without interference.
> Hard to do that, politicians (chiefs too) really hate to give up what they
> feel is their power.
>
>
>
> It sounds like the Harbor Patrol could go work either side. FD does swift
> water rescue, similar to Harbor Patrol water rescues; Harbor Patrol are
also
> on the LE side. Interesting situation.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: kevin asato
>
>
>
>
> It was more of a unified command structure for the areas police forces and
> fire agencies independent of each other. The only group within that is
> Harbor Patrol as they have both rescue and enforcement duties. Because
they
> perform mostly rescue work, they have been logically assigned under the
> Redondo Fire Department. The turf battle is over which city would serve as
> the lead overall agency of the combined departments.
>
> 73,
>
> kevin
>
> kc6pob
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