Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: [Geology2] Japan tsunami debris expected on Alaska shores soon



Hi Rick.

Yeah the media probably do have their own agendas, it certainly seems that way a lot of the time.  But I hope the solution isn't as bleak as you feel and hopefully the fact that at least some are aware of the problems might make a difference. That is why further raising awareness is highly important I think to the solution, (whatever that is). 

Well as the topic has moved onto Santa, lol and this isn't the right forum I'll drop it too. But your points are very significant!

Regards,

Mark.



From: Rick Bates <HappyMoosePhoto@gmail.com>
To: geology2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011, 23:08
Subject: RE: [Geology2] Japan tsunami debris expected on Alaska shores soon

 
Mark,
 
The media is only interested in things that affect THEIR bottom line (what sells).  Doomsday doesn't sell papers unless it's for a city, town or neighborhood.  Most folks are also happier being ignorant.
 
I don't hold out much hope for the ocean.  Let's say it was possible gather it all together without further harming the wildlife (and stop future dumping).
 
a) where do we put it?
b) who pays to pick it up?
c) who pays to process it into useful (or harmless trash)?
 
Convert it to an island and then populate it with felons, child/spouse abusers and drunk drivers?  ;-)
 
Given that this is a multinational and multicultural problem, you begin to see the scope of it.  Repair could easily cost trillions of dollars.
 
Kill the ocean; kill the planet.  Without the oceans, we die.
 
BTW, we've littered our planet above the atmosphere too with millions of pieces of space junk.  Some will eventually burn up if the orbits decay, but for now it's so bad that a very careful path has to be planned to avoid hitting it; for launches and orbits.  A single orbiting bolt or nut can ruin your day if hit at 16k MPH (mass*velocity=force).  If one doesn't think that anything flies that fast, do the math.  An orbit of 27k miles circumference traveled in 100 minutes (typical of the ISS or shuttle at a 200 mile orbit) is in that neighborhood.
 
And that doesn't factor in the tons of poisons pumped into the air, with each launch or spewed out on land every day.  Oh yeah, we're in trouble.
 
We're slobs; even pigs are cleaner so one shouldn't use that reference.
 
Each generation will have increased problems.  I would be surprised if there were more than 6-7 more generations before it was terminal.  And I'm trying to be hopeful and not degenerate into a rant.  ;-)
 
I'll let this drop as this isn't the proper forum, but this IS a big deal and a people problem.  Think 'butterfly effect' and you can get a handle on it.
 
Rick
 
 

From: Mark Smith

 
I suppose the media might be more 'people-focused.' But for some of the wildlife you mentioned it sounds horrible!  I hope there will be some campaign to raise awareness, so that at least something can be done to help, even if it is only likely to make a limited difference.
 
Mark.
 




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