Sunday, May 29, 2011

Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do?



NWS warns for more than just weather events which tend to be more on the mild side in the LA Basin, occasional tornado warnings and severe thunderstorm warnings and flash flood warnings and Santa Ana Wind warnings and even less frequent tsunami warnings notwithstanding.

That being said one needs to stay alert for the unexpected... NWS does fire warnings too like this one for the Amarillo, TX, area right this moment where a fire is bearing down on a community and an immediate emergency evac is being ordered via NOAA Weather Radio and internet alerts:

FIRE WARNING
TEXAS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AMARILLO TEXAS
RELAYED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AMARILLO TX
740 PM CDT SUN MAY 29 2011

THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS TRANSMITTED AT THE REQUEST OF THE TEXAS
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AMARILLO TEXAS.

RESIDENTS IN THE TASCOCITA AREA...WOODLANDS...ALL OF WESTCLIFF...AND
AREAS NORTH OF TASCOSA ROAD IN POTTER COUNTY ARE BEING ASKED TO
EVACUATE IMMEDIATELY. THE EVACUATION RECEIVING POINT IS NOW AT GRACE
CHURCH AT PLAINS AND WESTERN.

$$

CLK

Source: http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=ama&wwa=fire%20warning

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:36 PM, newnethboy <kef413@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed that having a whole lot of tech gadgets is not necessary (fun,
though). However, a friend in KY (retired cop) insists that everybody should
have a weather alert radio.

Frankly, in SoCal, away from the forests, at 1000 ft above sea level but on
only slight slope, my weather radio has yet to warn me of anything that
would affect me. (In other words, I've yet to see anything in my area that I
needed to be warned about.)

Still, I'm comfortable having the radio, which gives a much more timely
warning that CD, local radio/TV, or any other source I've tried.

I absolutely recommend such a radio to anybody, especially to anyone who
might ever need to be warned of anything (which, as it turns out, is nearly
everyone).

And then there's the Internet: I have the local NWS radar stations
bookmarked, along with the regional satellite and a lightning detector site;
I open all these whenever there's a storm system approaching. I can tell
(mostly) when the rain cells are going to hit, and on at least two occasions
I got shopping squeezed in between cells. Webpages like these are available
everywhere; I wouldn't trust them for tornado warnings (map not clear enough
and tornados too sudden), but they provide good information.

There are also NWS pages for hurricane mapping: Days of warning; if you're
vulnerable to these, you can get your boards and supplies ready before the
rush (although these maps are still subject to the uncertainty of hurricane
tracks).




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From: "Lin Kerns" <linkerns@gmail.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>;
<californiadisasters_discussion@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What
Would You Do?


Having been visited by a few twisters in my lifetime, I'd like to politely
point out something that's missing from this article: the responsibility of
every adult to monitor weather conditions. I realize in CA that forecasting
can't be as precise as those forecasts farther east, but while I lived out
in CA, I monitored the weather constantly and although I spent a great deal
of time in the Colorado Desert, I was never surprised by any unusual weather
activity.

I would not go shopping if severe weather was in the forecast or if I saw an
approaching weather system with a cold/warm mix of air. Every smartphone has
the capability of having an app for radar and local forecasts for anywhere
in the US. I would go to the movies here in TN, but not in CA, due to the
differences in building material (concrete blocks reinforced with rebar).

I have been caught out in a freak blizzard, but I outran it. I have left
school, 81 miles away, and outran a funnel cloud only to catch up to another
one on the destination end and having to slow down. Thanks to my portable
scanner and the radar app on my phone, I managed to dodge both. I've had
some near misses, but that was in the days before all the techie gadgets.

I'm not saying everyone needs to go all out and buy a lot of electronic
gizmos, but I am saying that one should be responsible for their own lives.
Guess I'm asking too much, though.

Lin

*PS Any responses, please direct them to the cross posted post in the CAD
Discussion Group, as those posted here will be removed. Thanks for your
cooperation. *





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Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do?

Agreed that having a whole lot of tech gadgets is not necessary (fun,
though). However, a friend in KY (retired cop) insists that everybody should
have a weather alert radio.

Frankly, in SoCal, away from the forests, at 1000 ft above sea level but on
only slight slope, my weather radio has yet to warn me of anything that
would affect me. (In other words, I've yet to see anything in my area that I
needed to be warned about.)

Still, I'm comfortable having the radio, which gives a much more timely
warning that CD, local radio/TV, or any other source I've tried.

I absolutely recommend such a radio to anybody, especially to anyone who
might ever need to be warned of anything (which, as it turns out, is nearly
everyone).

And then there's the Internet: I have the local NWS radar stations
bookmarked, along with the regional satellite and a lightning detector site;
I open all these whenever there's a storm system approaching. I can tell
(mostly) when the rain cells are going to hit, and on at least two occasions
I got shopping squeezed in between cells. Webpages like these are available
everywhere; I wouldn't trust them for tornado warnings (map not clear enough
and tornados too sudden), but they provide good information.

There are also NWS pages for hurricane mapping: Days of warning; if you're
vulnerable to these, you can get your boards and supplies ready before the
rush (although these maps are still subject to the uncertainty of hurricane
tracks).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lin Kerns" <linkerns@gmail.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>;
<californiadisasters_discussion@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What
Would You Do?


Having been visited by a few twisters in my lifetime, I'd like to politely
point out something that's missing from this article: the responsibility of
every adult to monitor weather conditions. I realize in CA that forecasting
can't be as precise as those forecasts farther east, but while I lived out
in CA, I monitored the weather constantly and although I spent a great deal
of time in the Colorado Desert, I was never surprised by any unusual weather
activity.

I would not go shopping if severe weather was in the forecast or if I saw an
approaching weather system with a cold/warm mix of air. Every smartphone has
the capability of having an app for radar and local forecasts for anywhere
in the US. I would go to the movies here in TN, but not in CA, due to the
differences in building material (concrete blocks reinforced with rebar).

I have been caught out in a freak blizzard, but I outran it. I have left
school, 81 miles away, and outran a funnel cloud only to catch up to another
one on the destination end and having to slow down. Thanks to my portable
scanner and the radar app on my phone, I managed to dodge both. I've had
some near misses, but that was in the days before all the techie gadgets.

I'm not saying everyone needs to go all out and buy a lot of electronic
gizmos, but I am saying that one should be responsible for their own lives.
Guess I'm asking too much, though.

Lin

*PS Any responses, please direct them to the cross posted post in the CAD
Discussion Group, as those posted here will be removed. Thanks for your
cooperation. *

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> *If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do? *
>
> By Fred Mann | The Wichita Eagle
>
> WICHITA, Kan. — A lesson from the tragedy in Joplin, Mo., is that
tornadoes
> may strike with little or no warning, hidden by rain or nearly transparent
> until they kick up dust and debris.
>
> You might be shopping, visiting a nursing home, driving a car or attending
> a movie.
>
> Emergency officials recommend following these basic guidelines if you find
> yourself in an unfamiliar place when a tornado approaches:
> <SNIP>
>
> View entire article here:
>
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/28/114937/what-to-do-if-a-tornados-headin
g.html#ixzz1NmDrhwyB

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[Geology2] Volcano Kills Fish Pictures



Volcano Kills Fish Pictures

By M&C May 29, 2011

Filipinos collect dead fish in Taal Lake, Batangas province, south of Manila, Philippines, 29 May 2011. A sudden change in water temperature of a lake surrounding a restive volcano in the Philippines has killed more than 700 metric tons of fish, a government agency said. The bureau said 752 metric tons of milkfish and tilapia have been found floating in Taal Lake, which surrounds Taal Volcano. The volcano has been showing signs of heightened activity since April, when the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology raised its five-tiered alert level to two.  EPA/DENNIS M. SABANGAN

Filipinos collect dead fish in Taal Lake, Batangas province, south of Manila, Philippines, 29 May 2011. A sudden change in water temperature of a lake surrounding a restive volcano in the Philippines has killed more than 700 metric tons of fish, a government agency said. The bureau said 752 metric tons of milkfish and tilapia have been found floating in Taal Lake, which surrounds Taal Volcano. The volcano has been showing signs of heightened activity since April, when the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology raised its five-tiered alert level to two. EPA/DENNIS M. SABANGAN

See more pictures here at the source

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Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do?



the other place to listen to a "good" station that keeps up on the weather.  I sat south of the town I live in for 20 minutes waiting for the all clear, tornado, to be announced so I could continue to my home. Listen, watch the skies, and don't be stupid about not seaking shelter. In 2001 a man in Hoisington, KS died because he refused to seek shelter until the sirens sounded, they didn't and he was the only death.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Lin Kerns <linkerns@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Having been visited by a few twisters in my lifetime, I'd like to politely point out something that's missing from this article: the responsibility of every adult to monitor weather conditions. I realize in CA that forecasting can't be as precise as those forecasts farther east, but while I lived out in CA, I monitored the weather constantly and although I spent a great deal of time in the Colorado Desert, I was never surprised by any unusual weather activity.

I would not go shopping if severe weather was in the forecast or if I saw an approaching weather system with a cold/warm mix of air. Every smartphone has the capability of having an app for radar and local forecasts for anywhere in the US. I would go to the movies here in TN, but not in CA, due to the differences in building material (concrete blocks reinforced with rebar).

I have been caught out in a freak blizzard, but I outran it. I have left school, 81 miles away, and outran a funnel cloud only to catch up to another one on the destination end and having to slow down. Thanks to my portable scanner and the radar app on my phone, I managed to dodge both. I've had some near misses, but that was in the days before all the techie gadgets.

I'm not saying everyone needs to go all out and buy a lot of electronic gizmos, but I am saying that one should be responsible for their own lives. Guess I'm asking too much, though.

Lin

PS Any responses, please direct them to the cross posted post in the CAD Discussion Group, as those posted here will be removed. Thanks for your cooperation.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@gmail.com> wrote:
 

If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do? 

By Fred Mann | The Wichita Eagle

WICHITA, Kan. — A lesson from the tragedy in Joplin, Mo., is that tornadoes may strike with little or no warning, hidden by rain or nearly transparent until they kick up dust and debris.

You might be shopping, visiting a nursing home, driving a car or attending a movie.

Emergency officials recommend following these basic guidelines if you find yourself in an unfamiliar place when a tornado approaches:


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Re: [californiadisasters] If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do?



Having been visited by a few twisters in my lifetime, I'd like to politely point out something that's missing from this article: the responsibility of every adult to monitor weather conditions. I realize in CA that forecasting can't be as precise as those forecasts farther east, but while I lived out in CA, I monitored the weather constantly and although I spent a great deal of time in the Colorado Desert, I was never surprised by any unusual weather activity.

I would not go shopping if severe weather was in the forecast or if I saw an approaching weather system with a cold/warm mix of air. Every smartphone has the capability of having an app for radar and local forecasts for anywhere in the US. I would go to the movies here in TN, but not in CA, due to the differences in building material (concrete blocks reinforced with rebar).

I have been caught out in a freak blizzard, but I outran it. I have left school, 81 miles away, and outran a funnel cloud only to catch up to another one on the destination end and having to slow down. Thanks to my portable scanner and the radar app on my phone, I managed to dodge both. I've had some near misses, but that was in the days before all the techie gadgets.

I'm not saying everyone needs to go all out and buy a lot of electronic gizmos, but I am saying that one should be responsible for their own lives. Guess I'm asking too much, though.

Lin

PS Any responses, please direct them to the cross posted post in the CAD Discussion Group, as those posted here will be removed. Thanks for your cooperation.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@gmail.com> wrote:
 

If a Tornado Were Headed Toward You, What Would You Do? 

By Fred Mann | The Wichita Eagle

WICHITA, Kan. — A lesson from the tragedy in Joplin, Mo., is that tornadoes may strike with little or no warning, hidden by rain or nearly transparent until they kick up dust and debris.

You might be shopping, visiting a nursing home, driving a car or attending a movie.

Emergency officials recommend following these basic guidelines if you find yourself in an unfamiliar place when a tornado approaches:


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Re: [californiadisasters] Re: Dann Shively Ends Longtime Career As KCRA Pilot

Yes, but not with the mania they did for a while. For a couple of years,
certain stations (actually, most of the stations which had copters) would
preempt any programming (except network news--contractual obligations) to
show any car chase.

They still show them, but not as often. (Possibly there are fewer, also.
Since very few if any of these purps ever got away, maybe the coverage did a
service.)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic" <sactovic@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:57 PM
Subject: [californiadisasters] Re: Dann Shively Ends Longtime Career As KCRA
Pilot


I should have sent this in. He was terriffic. He was also fortunate to be
spared the freeway-chase insanity that gripped LA TV news in the 90s. I can
remember only one real freeway chase here in the last 15 years -- and he
happened to be off or on vacation that day. Do they still do freeway chases
down there? (I was there and watched the whole OJ chase from beginnning to
end.)

--- In californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
>
> *Dann Shively Ends Longtime Career As KCRA Pilot*
>
> By Max Ehrenfreund
>
> Published: Saturday, May. 28, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 2B
>
> Dann Shively, pilot and news broadcaster for KCRA (Channel 3), flew in the
> station's helicopter and reported over the roar of the rotary blades one
> last time Friday.
>
> He has, over the past 40 years, flown over the Sacramento region and
Northern
>
California,<http://get.lingospot.com/link/?@li2=19124&is_lhid=1&key=ATPUCNWC
XV&portal_key=3_Sacbee&ps_id=q1n2JzQlLJ&q=QQ:lqOTqjptCQG[@::DZA_ORJJOBSG.HOP
II.ZHVOqptJ:pnCDOqmj_J:pnCGO4aJm8CISBRA:GAHHKVV&section_key=&site_id=&url=ht

tp%3A%2F%2Ftopics.sacbee.com%2FNorthern%2BCalifornia%2F&url_key=_TaCSO0CAHBG
HZ%7BGBK&v=1&%7Eboot=1306702538255>reporting
> from above on levee breaks, earthquakes, fires and, just this
> week, a tornado.
> <SNIP>
>
> View entire article here:
>
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/28/3660645/dann-shively-ends-longtime-career.h
tml#ixzz1NmFltLYD

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[californiadisasters] Re: Dann Shively Ends Longtime Career As KCRA Pilot

I should have sent this in. He was terriffic. He was also fortunate to be spared the freeway-chase insanity that gripped LA TV news in the 90s. I can remember only one real freeway chase here in the last 15 years -- and he happened to be off or on vacation that day. Do they still do freeway chases down there? (I was there and watched the whole OJ chase from beginnning to end.)

--- In californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
>
> *Dann Shively Ends Longtime Career As KCRA Pilot*
>
> By Max Ehrenfreund
>
> Published: Saturday, May. 28, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 2B
>
> Dann Shively, pilot and news broadcaster for KCRA (Channel 3), flew in the
> station's helicopter and reported over the roar of the rotary blades one
> last time Friday.
>
> He has, over the past 40 years, flown over the Sacramento region and Northern
> California,<http://get.lingospot.com/link/?@li2=19124&is_lhid=1&key=ATPUCNWCXV&portal_key=3_Sacbee&ps_id=q1n2JzQlLJ&q=QQ:lqOTqjptCQG[@::DZA_ORJJOBSG.HOPII.ZHVOqptJ:pnCDOqmj_J:pnCGO4aJm8CISBRA:GAHHKVV&section_key=&site_id=&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftopics.sacbee.com%2FNorthern%2BCalifornia%2F&url_key=_TaCSO0CAHBGHZ%7BGBK&v=1&%7Eboot=1306702538255>reporting
> from above on levee breaks, earthquakes, fires and, just this
> week, a tornado.
> <SNIP>
>
> View entire article here:
> http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/28/3660645/dann-shively-ends-longtime-career.html#ixzz1NmFltLYD
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