go without rain in SoCal from May until October, or longer. NoCal is a
little more like NJ with a year-round possibility of rain, but I think NoCal
is still dryer than NJ.
Another difference between CA and other western states and the East is that
we have much larger expanses of land, and especially undeveloped land. For
example, the Julian Fire and its "mates" combined to burn more area than the
entire state of Rhode Island. The Station Fire burned more area than the
total official size of several of the world's larger (not largest) cities.
Like parts of CA, parts of NJ have a fire ecology. Without researching it, I
believe the areas of fire ecology in NJ are not very large, so the risk is
lower as to area to burn. Albany, NY also has an area of fire ecology, the
"Pine Bush", but the entire area is less than the area of a significant fire
in SoCal.
CA and NJ do have something that's truly the same: In neither can one
generalize to the whole state. Each has vastly different conditions in
different areas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis N. Molino, Sr." <lnmolino@aol.com>
To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Fire Season...A Note From The List-Owner
But NJ for decades has had very strict codes for wildfire prevention.
Cedar shingles were baned for the most part and in high wildfire
danger areas the Fire Warden can require pretty much anything for fire
safety.
Coupled with aggressive firefighting this is why we don't see hundreds
if homes overrun such as SoCal.
If you're gonna live in the woods you better take some precautions and
that means cutting a tree down once in a while.
Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
Please excuse any typos.
(979) 412-0890 (Cell)
LNMolino@aol.com
On May 12, 2010, at 9:12, thomas billman <t_billman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> My parents live in NJ , now I know NJ has sand for dirt but they had
> 92 inches of snow this yr, last moth they had so much rain that
> everything was flooding. Then they had 3 weeks of no rain and 4 days
> of red flag warnings. Over the weeken they had 3 major fires
> scorched about 2000 acres of land. The fuel type in jersey is very
> close to S, Cal, so don't all the rain that you have had put your
> guard down.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com
> From: HappyMoosePhoto@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 02:27:09 -0700
> Subject: RE: [californiadisasters] Fire Season...A Note From The
> List-Owner
>
> Bah. If it rains a lot we get tall grass that burns hot and fast.
> If there is no rain, get dry grass sooner, which burns fast and
> hot. Grass is grass, some fast footwork, a little noise and
> excitement...
> Kim is correct. It isn't the grass that one has to worry about (tha
> t's 1 hour fuel)... if you want to be concerned (or not, depending o
> n the season), take a look at the ten, hundred and 1k hour fuels moi
> stures, the live to dead ratio, fuel loading in a given area, slope,
> aspect, weather trends (well you get the idea).
>
> But you're correct too. El Nino provided the first respite of flash
> y fuel fires in a few years (I didn't count them). The North state
> has done VERY well with rain this year (Folsom is about to spill, di
> tto Shasta and I haven't checked Oroville) but the fun and games wil
> l start next month. In fact we had between an inch and two inches o
> f rain (some snow too) just yesterday (I'm sick of the rain, have be
> en for months now). By now the seasonal firefighter hiring has been
> done and the training classes will be in a few weeks… And this lis
> t will start to get VERY busy.
>
> Y'all HAVE done your 4291 clearing and maintenance already, right?
> Emergency evacuation plan updated? Escape routes? NOW is the best t
> ime to take care of it before it gets hot and too dry. (Check the s
> park arrestors on your power tools too.) For the record, no I haven
> 't done mine yet. It's been too wet to do the weed eating (the
> HOA takes care of the trees). Later this week I'll take care of it,
> since the sun is supposed to be around a while. That's been anothe
> r joy too, lotsa grasses and pollen with an extended mold season for
> the allergies. At least the grasses up here in the hills have most
> ly 'headed out' (ripened and stopped growing).
>
> Ahh Spring, Ahh Sun, Ahh Choo.
>
> Rick
>
> www.HappyMoosePhoto.com
>
> Wildlife and scenic images
>
>
>
> PS Reminder: The Fire Weather book is in the files section. It
> explains weather in clear and easy to understand language and is an
> excellent resource. Some of the terms are dated but the general
> gist of it is still accurate. No we won't be uploading the fire beh
> avior books as they are copyrighted and the entire set is thousands
> of pages long.
>
>
>
> From: Richard Bixler
> I don't even want to think about how bad the fire season this yr.
> can possibly get. But, that is what we get for living in the
> southwestern US and in SoCal and this fire season may be a busy one
> for everyone involved.
>
> Scott Bixler
>
> From: Fizzboy7@aol.com
>
>
> It's been a nice little break for a few months. With all the
> rain this season, it's a sure deal this group will remain busy
> coming up.
> Jason
>
>
>
> kimnoyes@gmail.com writes:
>
> All these crazy winds that have given SoCal and CenCal a
> collective Bad Hair Day the past few to several days are having the
> effect of drying out all that lush flashy fuel that sprang up during
> our just-ended El Nino rainy season.
>
> Already the grasses are rapidly curing and turning brown.
>
> Small fires have already popped up in various parts of SoCal from
> Santa Barbara County to Riverside County.
>
> Soon, we will be fully into our annual fire season and as with every
> year it has the potential to be a doozy although for different
> reasons this year than during the past several drought years.
>
> The heavy fuels will take longer to get to critical levels this year
> but the flashy fuels are nearly ready to go now and they are rich
> and luxuriant, even out in the desert areas that normally are fairly
> defoliated by more typical precipitation levels.
>
> Please use caution while mowing your grass and trimming your brush
> as this time of year every year there are incidents of folks doing
> fire hazard mitigation activities whom start fires by accident.
>
> Also use due caution in all your other activities that might
> conceivably start a fire and be on the lookout for foolish or even
> suspicious activity in fire prone areas.
>
> Kim Patrick Noyes
> El Paso De Robles
>
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