Tuesday, November 2, 2010

Re: [californiadisasters] Civil Unrest Notice for "The City" (11/01/10-PM)



Kim--thank you for your explanation of things. I'll end this thread thusly:
 
Five arrests does not a riot make.
 
--dan
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Noyes
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Civil Unrest Notice for "The City" (11/01/10-PM)

 

Dear Dan,

Leave the moderating up to the management. If you have a concern you are invited to share it privately with said management.

The thread title you are labeling "hysterical" and "grossly inappropriate" was posted by the list-owner who still stands by it.

The Chron's reporting is downplaying how things got last night for a time because they are the hometown paper and don't wish to be a drag and report downer news the morning after the hometown major league baseball team wins the World Series. You don't think the news media frames the news and regulates reportage to fit their agenda however benign or seditious it might be?

Cops being injured by thrown bottles and fire trucks being taken over by rowdy crowds and needing to be liberated by riot officers and small fires being set do not fit the definition of "civil order" or "civil rest" or "civil peace".

The tag line merely put the group on notice that order was breaking down and there was potential for escalating trouble on the order of "civil disorder" in the same way a Red Flag Warning means there is high danger but does not imply a fire is actually happening.

Had you been monitoring Bayscan as was suggested in said thread last night you would have read the reports coming in that for a time strongly indicated things were getting out of hand and had a 50-50 chance of escalating further.

Kim Patrick Noyes
List-owner


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Dan Waterhouse <gydanw@cvip.net> wrote:
 

From the SF Chronicle coverage, the "vandals" were at Market and 7th Streets, which is inside the extension of the 'Loin across Market. Another example of lack of common sense on the part of any motorists who were wandering down there--that isn't exactly the safest part of town to begin with.
 
The Chron coverage portrayed the incident as being much less than what I find to be a rather hysterical tagline on this group. In fact, who tagged this thread "Civil Unrest Notice?" If it didn't originate with law enforcement, the tag was grossly inappropriate and the mods need to crack down.
 
--dan
 



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