Friday, January 16, 2015

Re: [Geology2] Destruction of National Treasure wasSmall volcanic eruptions partly explain ‘warming hiatus’



Agree 100%, Kimmer!  I would add that the distraction of the "climate debate" and "CO2 reduction political mandates" prevent us from evaluating technologies for "adaptation".( Like space-based "sun screens) It is a bit naive to believe that "mankind" has the collective will or the means to change the trend of CO2 in a significant way. It is also a fallacy to focus exclusively on CO2 when methane is far more IR generating than CO2 and water vapor itself is the greatest "greenhouse gas". 

There are several potential adaptions which are amazing. Such is a solar powered device which removes water from the air and can generate several litters a day in desert terrain, enough to meet the water needs for an average human.  Larger units  might be able to supply whole villages.  We also have been programed to deny the positive side such as longer growing seasons in the Canadian wheat belt and larger, more plentiful and voracious CO2-absorbing plants.  

Whatever course there will be challenges to all eco and social systems.   And for every control action here is a resistant reaction plus the law of unintended consequences which will beset mankind as he adapts or dies.

BTW I laude California's going ahead with desalination plants
Eman

PS: For anyone on Facebook I have a tongue-in-cheek group called the "United Front for the Reunification of Pangaea" incase you understand the inside joke and want it seen by your friends in your groups list and lead them to believe that you are a political activist.  Feel free to join and post geological satire.

From: "Kim Noyes kimnoyes@gmail.com [geology2]" <geology2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Geology2 <geology2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Geology2] Destruction of National Treasure wasSmall volcanic eruptions partly explain 'warming hiatus'

 
Eman,

The evidence that change is already occurring is overwhelming. The changes are even noticeable around here where I live. The only valid argument is to what degree man plays a role. In my mind that is not even relevant anymore because regardless of causation, the change is happening and there is a nasty pattern over the history of human civilization of local and regional climate changes leading to the demise of said civilizations. Even before civilization, human populations had to deal with this changes. In some ways they were better suited to change than modern civilization with its complex supply webs and much larger population to feed. So even if this is 100% natural we nonetheless have a problem.

Kimmer



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