Ellie,
I don't spout off much here but when I do I make my shots count.
The things I said are based upon facts and logic. It is what it is.
I have as much vitriol for Neo-Conservatives if it makes you feel any better.
I have plenty of Liberal friends as I do Conservative friends. I am a friend of the world and judge individuals based upon their character as demonstrated by their words and deeds.
I have plenty of respect for Classic Liberalism and Classic Conservatism. However, modern Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs are more populist and populism is dangerous because it appeals to the emotions and baser impulses of people and not to the intellect and sound reasoning.
Both Neo-Liberalism and Neo-Conservativism are destroying our moderan political dialogue in our nation so that we are increasingly mindlessly divided along the primitive tribal lines of the Cultural War which is being promulgated upon us by the real ownership of the country whom uses it to distract the masses and it's working wonderously. This issue that is mostly ignored by Neo-Libs and Neo-Cons while they are busy throwing their potty at each other on cable TV and the internet.
The Democratic and Republican Parties are controlled by Elites who all share the same Elite lifestyle and Elite value system. The parties compete over turf and money and prestige but they are the same type of people simply wearing different colored bandanas in essence. They are gangstas with Harvard degrees.
Kimmer
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ellie Winslow <winslowellie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow, that's a lot of vitriol...Luddites, nattering nabobs and IQ slurs! All I can say, is wow...
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Making Money With GoatsSubject: Re: [californiadisasters] California's faults are not like Japan's
To: californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 1:29 PM
There is no obvious and problematic aging of Diablo Canyon's structural elements that I have heard from the myriad of people I know whom work there full-time or when they shut a unit down to reload it.
The plant would have in all likelihood been relicensed as it rightly ought to be as nuclear energy is the future and always has been. However, given the public ignorance and hysteria as promoted by the media and our political leaders as well as the anti-nuke community in the immediate aftermath of what has happened in Japan that might not happen now which is a crying shame.
It boggles the mind to see the transformation into timid Luddites that Liberals have undergone since the 1960's. During that era Classic Liberals like Jack Kennedy were heroes inspiring the world and leading the charge against Global Communist Hegemony. Kennedy challenged the scientific community to do something even it believed impossible: send a man safely to the moon and back by the end of that decade which of course happened.
Now the Classic Liberals have been replaced by the modern Neo-Liberals whom fear to engage the world with confidence, wallow in self-hatred about all real and imagined transgressions their country has made with no recognition of the reality of our national learning curve and growth as a society that we are indeed undergoing and view technology as more a bad thing than a good thing.
Now these Nattering Nabobs of Negativity somehow seem to believe that we can run a modern civilization on solar and wind and tidal power-generation while driving around in hybrid cars because they oppose fossils fuels due to the carbon issue (on that they are correct) but oppose nuclear energy (on that they are incorrect) because occasionally something can go wrong. This logic applied to any other endeavor such as commercial aviation would lead us to oppose it and seek its discontinuance following the first plane crash as opposed to seeking ways to improve commercial aviation safety standards.
There are simply not enough rare earth elements on our planet's surface to convert all our automobiles in the U.S., let alone upon the entire Earth into hybirds. The Chinese are going to have a Middle Class someday that is more populous than our entire nation and they will all have cars and it is the Chinese who possess most of the rare earth elements so guess what?
On a side-note: the enviros are split on the alternative energy sources: Audobon members and other bird people aren't too keen about the collections of dead birds beneath each wind mill. Desert-loving enviros aren't too keen on the mental image of vast swaths of the Mojave Desert covered in solar panels under which the desert tortoise and other species would have to amble about. Surfrider Foundation type folks who love the ocean don't get too excited about the idea of vast tidal power generation plants along the coast.
With global warming a scientific fact and the anthropogenic element of it more and more a probability with each study that comes out it seems fossil fuels, which aside from being possibly a contributing factor to global warming, are simply an old and outdated and primitive source of energy and the fact we are still fucking around with fossils fuels this late in the game is tangible evidence of technological laziness on the part of Modern Civilization.
Does anybody with an I.Q. above 80 really believe that we as a species cannot come up with some technological innovations to deal with spent fuel or that we as a species that has always employed technology as a means of altering our environment for purposes of survival are incapable of and unwilling to develop technologies and procedures that can make nuclear power generation safer with time? Really?
Patricia, inlets alone do not amplify tsunamis. Along the coast of Thailand in 2004 there were inlets and such adjacent to tsunami-stricken stretches of coast that were unaffected because the submarine topography leading up the coast in those locations was too steep and abrupt and instead of encouraging the tsunami to pile up it bounced it back out. Guess what the submarine topography is around Diablo Canyon? And yes, nothing notable happened there last week unlike right around the corner up and down the coast at Morro Bay and Avila Beach. You need to take a chill pill about Diablo Canyon.
There has been only one significant tsunami in California history from the standpoint of run-up height and that was the one in the Santa Barbara Channel in December 1812 which was caused by a quake under the Santa Barbara Channel and triggered a huge submarine landslide just offshore of the Gaviota Coast west of Santa Barbara.
Crescent City is an aberration and can have a significant tsunami from just about any big earthquake on the Pacific Rim.
Kimmer
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