Sunday, June 26, 2011

Re: [californiadisasters] Admin Read: Civil unrest (on Cal Disaster Group)


California is being failed by the same two-party system that is failing the State of Texas and the United States of America. The sole function of political parties is to win elections and that they do with a 99.9% success rate and America and its 50 states be damned. Nowhere in their purpose is effective governance or responsibility to the people written into their social contract. The two parties have created a political duopoly in which they both maintain a stranglehold in the political process working in collusion with one another for their own mutual self-benefit... at our expense and the expense of the great civilization our forebears have sacrificed and worked hard to build and left us stewardship of and in which we have failed.

With that I must say the guilding is starting to tarnish on Texas given its budget woes and the fact its budget comes up for renewal every two years unlike CA's yearly budget renewal so TX can put off pain and make things look better longer even when things are not as good as they seem and sound. Texas, like California, also is being overrun by Third World refugees from that third-rate failed state to our south that is one of the world's greatest under-achieving nations with an amazingly high GDP which benefits the few (mainly the scores of Spanish-descended powerful and wealthy Mexican families whom own or otherwise benefit from most of the wealth in Mexico not owned by the narco-terrorist cartels).


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Louis N. Molino, Sr. <> wrote:

Well said Kim. 

As for the failed State South of CA y'all run a very close second in many ways from the outsider looking in. 

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On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:46, Kim Noyes <> wrote:

Achtung Kinder!

Nothing thrusts a flaming stick up my ass more than shit-stirring which is what Steve did so he is now on moderation.

Furthermore, right up there on the list just below Yahoo Groups Rule #1 (NEVER argue with a moderator) is the one that says leave the moderating to the moderators.... kapeesh, Steverino?

This state has a long history of civil unrest going back to the lynch mobs in the gold fields and later on lynchings of blacks and even whites in SoCal as recently as in the early 20th Century. There was much labor unrest in the later part of the 19th century and well into the first half of the 20th Century at various times in the Port of Los Angeles and the Ports of San Francisco and Oakland. There have also been bombings (think of the LA Times bombing or the LAX bombing) as well as the Zoot Suit riots of the World War Two era as well more recently the Watts Riots, the Isla Vista Riots, Cal Poly Riots, and LA Riots of 1994.

However, neither do we wish to address every single suspicious package or illegal assembly about to be read the Riot Act.

A good rule of thumb is to wait to post about civil unrest until after the first police car is overturned or the first bus is burning... or the LA Lakers have just won another NBA Championship.

Given there are over 1,500 members here we recognize that there are many different personalities and minds here and given that array of humanity not everyone is going to interpret our guidelines precisely the same way so we effort ourselves to be flexible and reasonable even while maintaining list order.

Speaking of list order, Louis, this group is allegorical of the State of California in general: given the relatively large population things can't be as loose as if the population were small or else there would be utter anarchy.

A state like Montana can afford to have stretches of road with virtually no speed limit and few guns laws but a state like California where there are nearly 40 million people, most of whom live bunched together, and many of them are not even culturally Americanized we as a state can ill-afford to play it fast and loose or we would function much like that quasi-"failed state" adjacent to our south.

It's not about being tight-assed but about creating as pleasant a Yahoo Groups experience as possible and to do that folks can't all be doing their own thing because this group is known for being especially posting-economical with as little background noise as possible. The discussion group is for the chatter and banter and for stuff that is not entirely on-topic.

Der Gruppe Oberfuhrer

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Louis N. Molino, Sr. <> wrote:

Exactly my point and I'm often critical of how this list is often too "moderated" to begin with.

For a state known for it's liberal view there sure as hell seem to be a bunch of tight asses here.

Oh wait my bad (as if I'd givens damn).

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On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:06, newnethboy <> wrote:

> No, not your bad. Steve had no business criticizing your post; he is not a
> moderator.
> Is this incident a "California Disaster"? We don't know yet. We're torn
> between timely reporting and waiting until we have the full story and
> nobody's interested anymore.
> My guess it this will turn out to be nothing, but you didn't know that at
> 10:17.
> A couple of days ago, I reported on the possibility of tsunami. I was
> reporting based on the automated USGS report of a 7.2 quake, and before the
> tsunami warning were issued. When they were, they were only for AK, not a
> "CA disaster".
> As one moderator, my opinion is that you were not wrong in posting. In any
> case, it's up to the moderators and/or owner to correct you if you're wrong.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "randee deason" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Civil unrest
>> My apology, my bad
>> On Jun 25, 2011 10:42 PM, "steve rieger" <> wrote:
>>> On 6/25/2011 10:17 PM, randee deason wrote:
>>>> Reports of Civil unrest near soccer match and Hunnington Park. LASD
>>>> responding.
>>>> Randee Deason
>>> and your reason for posting this is what ?
>>> yup will prolly be admonished for this

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