Saturday, August 13, 2011

Re: [californiadisasters] Re: Strange Smoke Coming from Hope Ranch Hill



Lin,

No, the La Brea Fire was started in 2009 by Mexican national invaders occupying public lands in the Los Padres National Forest growing marijuana and starting an unsafe cooking fire on the southern aspect of Sierra Madre Ridge along the margins of the San Rafael Wilderness Area. What I refer to happened a few years earlier further to the south or southeast. It's even possible my 41-year old mind is conflating multiple events into one event.

David,

Thanks and the first story might be it, the second is obviously not it and the third happened too far back to be it. I was unaware there were more than one such incident in recent years. I note the author of that article is talking out of his arse in the worst sort of pseudoscientific manner. He might have a point but it's on top of his head. It is unfortunate that he has elected to dabble in such very real and very cool stories giving them a Chem Trails/Crop Circles/HARP Signifals treatment. ;-p

I posted this very same question on the Hotlist and got some interesting link back. The first one further elaborates on one of the fires your link discusses but the second gets into something else entirely that I'm not certain if it is a joke or real.

http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/jan06/NN_fieryhotspot.html

http://www.wildlandfire.com/docs/2009/HazSandFireArea.pdf

Kimmer


On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Lin Kerns <linkerns@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Kim,

Are you referring to the La Brea Fire from August 2009?

Lin


On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I remember sometime back in the 2000's there being a brush fire on the Los Padres National Forest in the Santa Barbara County Backcountry which was caused by the ground itself being so hot that it combusted duff or grass or whatever and started the fire that got fairly decently-sized. I cannot remember the name of the incident nor did I ever hear what the final verdict was on the source of that in-ground heat. Now it seems something similar has happened again but this time on the south side of the Santa Ynez Range in Hope Ranch. Does anybody here know any more details about that other fire a few years ago? Was the cause then what is mentioned in this article about this new fire or was it something else like a burning coal seem or other? Is the incident in 2006 mentioned in this article the one to which I refer? Any information from any informed individuals here would be greatly appreciated.

Kimmer




On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@gmail.com> wrote:

Similar to unsolved situation five years ago

KEYT-TV Santa Barbara

Story Created: Aug 12, 2011 PDT

Story Updated: Aug 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM PDT

Hope Ranch - An unsolved mystery is smoldering on a dirt hillside below Hope Ranch. Smoke and steam are coming out of the soil, very similar to an event in October of 2006. Geologists have said a landslide five years ago may have opened up a crack in the bluff. That may have added oxygen to an underground super heated tar site.

The hot zone is being controlled with sprinklers spraying waters in all directions.

A fence is up in the area to keep inquisitive beach walkers away.

Santa Barbara County Fire officials say there is no immediate threat to the area or risk to the public.

Senior Reporter John Palminteri has the story.

Source: http://www.keyt.com/news/local/Strange-Smoke-Coming-from-Hope-Ranch-Hill-127628933.html

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