Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Re: [californiadisasters] Fire Season...A Note From The List-Owner

Yet NJ is home to a large Pine Preserve the Pine Barrens. I tbink the
nations largest protected such preserve.

You're last statemet is very true.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
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On May 12, 2010, at 10:09, newnethboy <kef413@gmail.com> wrote:

> An important difference between NJ and CA is the weather. Our normal
> is to
> go without rain in SoCal from May until October, or longer. NoCal is a
> little more like NJ with a year-round possibility of rain, but I
> think NoCal
> is still dryer than NJ.
>
> Another difference between CA and other western states and the East
> is that
> we have much larger expanses of land, and especially undeveloped
> land. For
> example, the Julian Fire and its "mates" combined to burn more area
> than the
> entire state of Rhode Island. The Station Fire burned more area than
> the
> total official size of several of the world's larger (not largest)
> cities.
>
> Like parts of CA, parts of NJ have a fire ecology. Without
> researching it, I
> believe the areas of fire ecology in NJ are not very large, so the
> risk is
> lower as to area to burn. Albany, NY also has an area of fire
> ecology, the
> "Pine Bush", but the entire area is less than the area of a
> significant fire
> in SoCal.
>
> CA and NJ do have something that's truly the same: In neither can one
> generalize to the whole state. Each has vastly different conditions in
> different areas.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis N. Molino, Sr." <lnmolino@aol.com>
> To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Fire Season...A Note From The
> List-Owner
>
>
> But NJ for decades has had very strict codes for wildfire prevention.
> Cedar shingles were baned for the most part and in high wildfire
> danger areas the Fire Warden can require pretty much anything for fire
> safety.
>
> Coupled with aggressive firefighting this is why we don't see hundreds
> if homes overrun such as SoCal.
>
> If you're gonna live in the woods you better take some precautions and
> that means cutting a tree down once in a while.
>
> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
> Please excuse any typos.
> (979) 412-0890 (Cell)
> LNMolino@aol.com
>
> On May 12, 2010, at 9:12, thomas billman <t_billman@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> My parents live in NJ , now I know NJ has sand for dirt but they had
>> 92 inches of snow this yr, last moth they had so much rain that
>> everything was flooding. Then they had 3 weeks of no rain and 4 days
>> of red flag warnings. Over the weeken they had 3 major fires
>> scorched about 2000 acres of land. The fuel type in jersey is very
>> close to S, Cal, so don't all the rain that you have had put your
>> guard down.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To: californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com
>> From: HappyMoosePhoto@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 02:27:09 -0700
>> Subject: RE: [californiadisasters] Fire Season...A Note From The
>> List-Owner
>>
>> Bah. If it rains a lot we get tall grass that burns hot and fast.
>> If there is no rain, get dry grass sooner, which burns fast and
>> hot. Grass is grass, some fast footwork, a little noise and
>> excitement...
>> Kim is correct. It isn't the grass that one has to worry about (
>> tha
>> t's 1 hour fuel)... if you want to be concerned (or not, dependin
>> g o
>> n the season), take a look at the ten, hundred and 1k hour fuels moi
>> stures, the live to dead ratio, fuel loading in a given area, slope,
>> aspect, weather trends (well you get the idea).
>>
>> But you're correct too. El Nino provided the first respite of fl
>> ash
>> y fuel fires in a few years (I didn't count them). The North state
>> has done VERY well with rain this year (Folsom is about to spill, di
>> tto Shasta and I haven't checked Oroville) but the fun and games
>> wil
>> l start next month. In fact we had between an inch and two inches o
>> f rain (some snow too) just yesterday (I'm sick of the rain, have
>> be
>> en for months now). By now the seasonal firefighter hiring has been
>> done and the training classes will be in a few weeks… And this lis
>> t will start to get VERY busy.
>>
>> Y'all HAVE done your 4291 clearing and maintenance already, right?
>> Emergency evacuation plan updated? Escape routes? NOW is the best t
>> ime to take care of it before it gets hot and too dry. (Check the s
>> park arrestors on your power tools too.) For the record, no I haven
>> 't done mine yet. It's been too wet to do the weed eating (the
>> HOA takes care of the trees). Later this week I'll take care of
>> it,
>> since the sun is supposed to be around a while. That's been anothe
>> r joy too, lotsa grasses and pollen with an extended mold season for
>> the allergies. At least the grasses up here in the hills have most
>> ly 'headed out' (ripened and stopped growing).
>>
>> Ahh Spring, Ahh Sun, Ahh Choo.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> www.HappyMoosePhoto.com
>>
>> Wildlife and scenic images
>>
>>
>>
>> PS Reminder: The Fire Weather book is in the files section. It
>> explains weather in clear and easy to understand language and is an
>> excellent resource. Some of the terms are dated but the general
>> gist of it is still accurate. No we won't be uploading the fire
>> beh
>> avior books as they are copyrighted and the entire set is thousands
>> of pages long.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Richard Bixler
>> I don't even want to think about how bad the fire season this yr.
>> can possibly get. But, that is what we get for living in the
>> southwestern US and in SoCal and this fire season may be a busy one
>> for everyone involved.
>>
>> Scott Bixler
>>
>> From: Fizzboy7@aol.com
>>
>>
>> It's been a nice little break for a few months. With all the
>> rain this season, it's a sure deal this group will remain busy
>> coming up.
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> kimnoyes@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> All these crazy winds that have given SoCal and CenCal a
>> collective Bad Hair Day the past few to several days are having the
>> effect of drying out all that lush flashy fuel that sprang up during
>> our just-ended El Nino rainy season.
>>
>> Already the grasses are rapidly curing and turning brown.
>>
>> Small fires have already popped up in various parts of SoCal from
>> Santa Barbara County to Riverside County.
>>
>> Soon, we will be fully into our annual fire season and as with every
>> year it has the potential to be a doozy although for different
>> reasons this year than during the past several drought years.
>>
>> The heavy fuels will take longer to get to critical levels this year
>> but the flashy fuels are nearly ready to go now and they are rich
>> and luxuriant, even out in the desert areas that normally are fairly
>> defoliated by more typical precipitation levels.
>>
>> Please use caution while mowing your grass and trimming your brush
>> as this time of year every year there are incidents of folks doing
>> fire hazard mitigation activities whom start fires by accident.
>>
>> Also use due caution in all your other activities that might
>> conceivably start a fire and be on the lookout for foolish or even
>> suspicious activity in fire prone areas.
>>
>> Kim Patrick Noyes
>> El Paso De Robles
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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