[californiadisasters] Re: ICS for private industry/non governmental agency

In the Los Angeles EOC there is a mix of civilian and sworn.
Some folks get the whole ICS thing and some don't.
The EOC performs a coordination and management function.
As a result the terms for the Command and General Staff were changed.
This has helped to get the memebers of the EOC to not think tactically.

We use the following terms for ICS positions.

Command Staff = Management Staff
Incident Commander = EOC Director
Liaison Officer
Information Officer
Safety Officer

General Staff = Coordination Staff
Instead of being Section Chiefs they are Section Coordinators
Operations Section Coordinator
Planning Section Coordinator
Logistics Section Coordinator
Admin / Finance Section Coordinator

The bottom line is... No matter what you call it or how you use ICS, all members of the organization have to be trained and plans exercised.

Even if you use ICS for the simplest of events that helps your folks with gaining experience in the use of ICS.

On the LAFD we put together Incident Action Plans (IAP) for everything. We build IAPs for training classes, large scale events, and of course Large incidents.

We call the IAP we use for events an Event Action Plan (EAP). We set up the planning cycle and fill out an organizational chart to support the event.

I have had the chance to be on some of these planning teams and can say that using ICS for something that simple has helped me on the large scale incidents.

So, do your training. Use the process for the simplest of events and include all employees assigned to roles in your plan. It'll help..

--- In californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com, kevin asato <kc6pob@...> wrote:
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> Think of the problem/solution as an organization chart - who reports to whom and up the line, depending upon the severity of the problem. For a matter of a server going out of service, it may go no further than the IT manager. For a larger disaster (basement being flooded) the response will involve many more groups/departments in resolving the problem. For a larger disaster (loss of structure), it will involve many more groups.
> I did a quick search on the First Interstate Bank Fire in Los Angeles in May, 1988 as this was the first successful implementation of disaster recovery that I had heard about at the time that was implemented. I found a couple of links that describe some of the preplanning that would go into implementing a disaster recovery plan, going beyond the ICS type structure required.http://us.mc520.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1281829290&.rand=bath2n1acogqc#_pg=compose&&.rand=599443750&replyall&action_msg_replyall&clean&hash=30f8f42ebf8d4d21b2ceece1d9bca4ba&.jsrand=7340563http://www.calcpa.org/Content/Files/Disaster%20Recovery/DisasterPlanningandRecoveryGuide2005.pdf
> Now, the important part is that after you have devised the organizational structure and roles for disaster recovery you will need to spend the time to prepare for each disaster scenario and practice them _several_ times a year. This is the hard part to sell as it takes people completely out of their daily routine as everyone involved may need to be dedicated full time to the training scenario ($$/budget). Treat each facilities problem as an exercise in disaster recovery - I have a client that had a water pipe break one floor above a data equipment closet causing problems with the switches and routers collocated in the closet. What are the damage estimates to both the facilities and data equipment; what is time to repair; what are backup plans in case restoration of service or repairs takes longer to perform; what is the escalation plan; what groups need to be involved? Do you perform fire escape drills? Use this as an opportunity to practice disaster
> recovery with each group reporting in to a centralized location (Command Post) with status (facilities, equipment, AND personnel counts).
> 73,kevinkc6pob
> --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Frank Vitale <sog13@...> wrote:
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> From: Frank Vitale <sog13@...>
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] ICS
> To: californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 3:18 PM
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> Being in the private sector, I'm seeing more companioes use the ICS. Problem is, most fo the people that are assigned to a companies ICS are drafted to the position with no experience or exposure to it. Much less try to remeber what their role (command, general staff) is since they only get together once a year to do a table top exercise.
> Try an explain the ICS to a contract administrator that his position is Logistics and what that entails. The FEMA class is a waste for the comman businessman to comprehend and implament.
> I'm looking for somewthing that that takes the ICS and explaiins it so the private sector layman can say "Ok, I get it.". Then be able to reveiw it a year later and remeber some of what was taught.
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> From: Mickey Kopanski <gun4747@...>
> To: californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:06:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] ICS
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> Depends on what you need it for. ICS is to for command, control and operations of an incident. It could be applied to private sector if you had something that needed such structure...
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> All ICS training is geared to gov't agencies. Is there anything out there that helps the Private sector adapt?
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