Kim's moderators):
We've been really quiet here for a while (a very good thing), but the
downside of that is that we've either forgotten or have joined the group
since we last talked about the way this group works. IMO, this whole event
this evening was "sloppy" and several members outright breached our rules
(and plain civility).
In no special order (and blaming no one specifically):
1. Our guideline as to subject line is, to the extent possible, <Location,
incident name, type of incident>. Often at the beginning, this maybe can't
be as refined as we'd like, but there can always be a location of some kind
(or you don't know enough to be posting). The first message came in at
19:07; a location was not mentioned in the subject line until 19:42 (and
then, it was at the end of a long subject, so that it didn't show in my
email client, so probably not in several others'). As far as I knew, this
incident could have been taking place in San Diego Co., Siskiyou Co., or
anywhere in between.
2. As Kim has pointed out, the "fog of war" is one price of breaking news.
Reports from various "reliable" sources (as I'm understanding, that included
public safety radio, news media) were telling of one fire or two fires, with
or without an aircraft. So people, WHY ON EARTH were some of you bashing
others who were merely conveying what they'd heard?!
In the immortal words of the Stephanie Tanner ("Full House"), "How RUDE!"
The group rules include: Let the moderators do the moderating.
So, if you have a problem, let the moderators do the moderating. Complain,
offgroup, to the group owner's address, and--how can I put this?--Let the
moderators do the moderating.
3. When the moderators DO do the moderating, do what they tell you! If a
moderator tells you, "Chilax", chill and/or relax, and do it NOW.
4. If you have something to tell us that you got from a reliable source or
first-hand, please tell us. All we ask is that you keep it to reliable
sources; unless you're an expert in the field AND have the pertinent
information, don't interpret or speculate. And don't post to criticize
others' posts--if you're not adding info about the incident, just keep
lurking.
Okay, I don't know if that covers everything that went wrong this evening,
but it's a start. Come on, folks! Let's keep this group the high-quality
forum that Kim has built and we moderators have helped him maintain. (Anyone
who wants garbage can choose from dozens of other Yahoo! Groups or "news"
sources; don't bring it here, thankyouverymuch.)
One more comment: Email is inherently not a real-time medium, and Yahoo!
Groups are sometimes further plagued by slow-downs. On top of that, some
members' posts are moderated and don't appear immediately. All these factors
boil down to two results:
1. This is not the ideally timely place for breaking news (although I'm
amazed at how well we do).
2. Some posts are going to appear out-of-sequence, and at times this makes
the poster, through no fault of his/her own, look stupid. Please assume the
best of the person and the worst of the YG system.
Thanks for reading; I'll assume you'll be heeding.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@gmail.com>
To: "CaliforniaDisasters" <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: [californiadisasters] Admin Read: San Bruno Incident
> Achtung Gruppe!
>
:
:
:
> However, at times tonight things got a bit too chatty and chippy which was
> unnecessary on-list or even at all.
>
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