Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County "second alarm"

Actually I know of one very small town in NJ that has Jones Snap on their hydrants. 2 2 1/2" outlets with a threaded Steamer connection. Every one around them has Snap thread adapters.

The Steamers are the real issue since everyone seems to have thief own thread cuts and no standards.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
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Please excuse any typos.
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On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:12, newnethboy <kef413@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jones Snap may be dead, but my Catalonian cousin is proud of the
> international acceptance of the Barcelona Coupler. We may yet see a day when
> threaded couplers are gone.
>
> Meanwhile, what about the hydrants?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <FyerChief@aol.com>
> To: <californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
> "second alarm"
>
>
> Here is a bit of
> history:_http://www.crownshoptalk.com/History%20of%20Fire%20Hose.pdf_
> (http://www.crownshoptalk.com/History%20of%20Fire%20Hose.pdf)
>
>
> In a message dated 9/12/2010 10:47:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> lnmolino@aol.com writes:
>
>
>
>
> Ah you struck a chord with me brio many folks today think interoperability
> is only about radios and communications related things like jargon as you
> discuss. It's much more.
>
> Did you know that the International Association of Fire Chiefs was founded
> for the purpose of standardizing cure hose thread in the US. Trust me it
> ain't standard. Bet none if CA have a clue as to what a Jones Snap Coupling
> is let alone what you do with a Hose Pick.
>
> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
> Please excuse any typos.
> (979) 412-0890 (Cell)
> _LNMolino@aol.com_ (mailto:LNMolino@aol.com)
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 0:01, newnethboy <_kef413@gmail.com_
> (mailto:kef413@gmail.com) > wrote:
>
>> Different "dialects" are still a problem, though getting better as we
> seek
>> further "interoperability". In a recent discussion on another group, the
>> example was given of how "cover me" has different meanings for local
> police
>> and for National Guard. (For those not into this: PD means, "Aim a weapon
>> and fire if needed," whereas NG means, "Launch a volley of fire/hail of
>> bullets to keep them pinned down." VERY different indeed!)
>>
>> But interoperability wasn't even a concept, let alone a goal, for the
>> longest time. Jargon differences such as "5-11", "All hands", "Signal
> 30",
>> are nothing compared to hydrant threads being different sizes and thread
>> pitches from one jurisdiction to another, and hoses and nozzles having
>> different thread types. This problem existed at least into the 1980s, if
> not
>> still; in my very small department (where we did mutual aid for nearly
> every
>> working fire), we needed to carry thread adapters for three or four
>> different thread types (plus we were the only ones using large-diameter
> hose
>> with Storch couplers).
>>
>> One of the things I REALLY APPRECIATE in SoCal is the cooperation between
>> agencies/jurisdictions. (They even have the same hydrant threads,
> usually.)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Louis N. Molino, Sr." <_lnmolino@aol.com_
> (mailto:lnmolino@aol.com) >
>> To: <_californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com) >
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
>> "second alarm"
>>
>>
>> Yea in ways. The fact is I was hooked by them. Made my first box alarm
> for a
>> house fire on 12/26/72. Dried up Christmas tree.
>>
>> As for your description of "Alarms" very nicely put. I'd add that one of
> the
>> problems from the old days was terms were used so loosely. Example Philly
>> never had a General Alarm. Some Cities in NJ would have the General Alarm
>> and if more help was needed they would go fir the second and third alarms
>> from there.
>>
>> Add to that the street lingo of we had a 3 bagger last night as in 3 rd
>> alarm or the 5-11 was struck for that job 5th alarm on the 10-11 code
> for a
>> fire.
>>
>> Each are or the US is it's own world with this stuff.
>>
>> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
>> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
>> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.
>> Please excuse any typos.
>> (979) 412-0890 (Cell)
>> _LNMolino@aol.com_ (mailto:LNMolino@aol.com)
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 22:37, newnethboy <_kef413@gmail.com_
> (mailto:kef413@gmail.com) > wrote:
>>
>>> "Training films".
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <_lnmolino@aol.com_ (mailto:lnmolino@aol.com) >
>>> To: <_californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:californiadisasters@yahoogroups.com) >
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [californiadisasters] Forest Fire Kern Canyon Kern County
>>> "second alarm"
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh and as for emergency yes I know where I was on January 22 1972 at
> 200
>>>> eastern time and have seen all 134 episodes ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
>>>> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
>>>> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection
>>> Consultant
>>
>>
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